Emails After 9 May 2003 Stocktake

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-----Original Message-----

From: bthxyz [mailto:brian@sangumaconsultants.co.uk]

Sent: 09 May 2003 17:22

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: NI - Re: Stock Take... Tick...Tick...Tick...

 

 

What was discussed, and I'll be posting more on this later, is how to

extend the NI community by using various online tools.  I don't know

what part of North America you are from but your phone and wlan

access may be ahead of us here in the UK

 

We have to be more than a 'face to face' community. Thanks for

triggering off this conversation. 

 

Brian

 

-----Original Message-----

From: chris macrae [mailto:wcbn007@easynet.co.uk]

Sent: 09 May 2003 18:01

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: NI - Postcard from Kings College London of Chris Macrae

 

 

I believe most of us committed to write up our personal postcards of today's meeting partly to confirm what we observed for those who were not there, partly to check communal contributions we are prepared to make. The advantage of being an early correspondent is I'm sure everyone else will be more accurate than my 50+ memory, and anyway I like experimenting with boundaries, and then being told which were ok and which were areas I had better go back to drawing board and relearn. We were also asked to try to voice commitments we were prepared to make, assuming always that the whole community felt they were worth a go...One other intro remark: I love what this group seems uniquely to have connected and NOW realise that people like Tony Page have put in huge amounts of effort over the years- thanks to Tony and all the founders, may we multiply your values and intents...I have a dream that one day there could be a NI chapter in every city that needs true organisation change people whomever they may be…

 

Better stop before the postcard overflows. Hard to after such a wonderful meeting of 15 people and wishing we could have open spaced all 150 NI members.

 

Chris Macrae, wimbledon, wcbn007@easynet.co.uk

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Nick Heap [mailto:nick.heap@ntlworld.com]

Sent: 12 May 2003 14:42

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: NI - My reflections on the Stocktake

 

 

Dear All

 

At the end of the stocktake meeting last week, we decided to have a number of "reports back" to the wider NI community. The notes that follow are just my reflections and memories of the meeting.

 

1) We valued NI and wanted it to continue.

 

2) NI was a good place to try things out both face to face and on-line.

 

3) We tolerate and even enjoy messy processes, organisational forms and situations. Mess can be very creative.

 

4) The face to face and on-line sides of NI are different. They appeal more to different people and need thinking about differently.

 

5) Some people find the prospect of joining the on-line discussion daunting because of the academic brilliance out there.

 

6) There is a continuing pull between the need for structure and the need for freedom. I think we agreed not to try and resolve this but to leave it as a creative tension.

 

7) We need more people to take on the "moderation" or "leadership" role taken by Tony Page and Colston Sanger. Colston suggested five people all together. There are at least functions like facilitating relationships with other groups, developing the website and the e-mail list etc that take time and effort.

 

8) There are no more events in the pipeline. The group would like there to be more and to know what events NI'ers would like to put on and/or attend.

 

9) We discussed changing the technology of the on-line discussions to make them easier to find and use. Brian and others are investigating.

 

10) We discussed changing the default "Reply" settings so that messages went automatically to an individual rather than the list, but concluded this might change the character of the interactions too drastically.

 

11) We noticed that there was no obvious process for making decisions in NI!

 

12) We did not discuss the process of the meeting at the end which I found a bit surprising as we are most of us work with groups and we might have learned something interesting!

 

Best wishes,

 

Nick Heap

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Yvana Reeves [mailto:yr@reeves-consult.demon.co.uk]

Sent: 13 May 2003 08:49

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: NI - Re: What is it that we do when we 'design' an intervention ?

 

 

I was struck after the NI stocktake day (by) my own resistance to structure and processes that are 'brought in' from other workshops or events. In this case suggestions of processes we could use to move the group through the event,in themselves logical, potentially affirming and therefore attractive to follow, but to me still feeling like 'transference' from another time and place. They may make the person who knows the process feel they are helping but potentially it seems to disenfranchise all those who don't know the process. I like the more Gestalt approach of being open to what is 'in the field' and working with the energy that is in the room, for that group, at that time and place and the group deciding the way to go.

 

Yvana

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Julia Williams [mailto:julia@personalimpact.com]

Sent: 13 May 2003 13:10

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: NI - My reflections on the Stocktake

 

 

Thanks Nick.  That is so clear and a satisfying summary for me. Julia

 

Julia Williams

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Grey [mailto:davidgrey@SPIN1.fsnet.co.uk]
Sent:
13 May 2003 15:16
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Subject: NI - Request for ideas or proposals for NI workshops / events / meetings

Hi everybody,

 

At the recent NI stocktake we talked of the importance of the face-to-face side of NI.  We:

  • discussed  what percentage of NI people feel confident enough to offer workshops - do we all feel OK to do that or only some of us?
  • noticed that in recent months there has been a falling off of offers for workshops.

Out of the discussion I agreed to send out this request for ideas and offers.

  • These can be for workshops or for other events.
  • They can be offers which you feel 100% able to run yourself already and on your own, OR . . .
  • . . . they can be ideas which you don't feel confident to bring about on your own, but would like to see happen.

Once we have got ideas and offers in we can circulate them and see what the potential take-up would be.

 

And we can see if people with similar ideas but needing some assistance to realise their idea can be put together so that jointly they can make it happen.

 

This is not only about workshops, but about any ideas at all for face-to-face events or meetings.

 

So, please read through the following very short questionnaire and reply to as much as you want of it, by sending it back, amended, to davidgrey@spin1.fsnet.co.uk

 

Best wishes,

 

David

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tonypage [mailto:tony@pageconsulting.co.uk]
Sent:
17 May 2003 17:43
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Subject: NI - Reflections and our RENEWAL phase

Dear NI

 

Just over a week has passed since our stocktaking meeting at Kings College... and I wanted to convey to all of you my sense of what happened there and its significance for the future direction of the New Intermediaries community. But during a week of wall to wall workshops which occupied me well into the evenings I found little time to put together my "postcard" report, so I sit here on Sat afternoon gathering my reflections to add to those already posted by Brian, Nick, Chris, Colston and Julia. Nick provided a very neat summary of the key points - I want to colour this in a bit more.

 

Sorry it's going to be a longer than a postcard - the reason for this is we seem to be at a very important stage and I want to offer as full a sense as I can of what happened on 9 May to the wider NI community including those who sent messages before the meeting (Wendy, Caroline, Carys, Andy, Lilly, Stephen, Lin, Richard, Georgina, Danusia, Lindsay, Jeremy, Bruce, Uly, Amanda, Karen and others) and many of you who have been actively involved in and supporting NI in recent years, but were unable to attend.

 

12 of us turned up (would have been 13 if I had remembered to tell Bridget we had moved the meeting from RFH - sorry Bridget) - and as so often happens in NI we had a mix of established NIers and new people (Gerry, Altazar and Pat).

 

Claire asked me at the outset why we needed a stocktake so soon after our last one in September. You can see details of the Sept 02 one at http://www.newintermediaries.co.uk/kpnews.htm and when I look at this it gives a real sense of what NI is about and our values - but it seems years ago!  Well we did badly need a stocktake and I felt the occasion was momentous.

 

Why?

 

A big leadership question

After our introductions I conveyed the news that Fiona Coffey, one of the founders of NI, had decided for her own reasons to leave NI having felt ambivalent about her involvement here for some time, and this generated a rich discussion of the LEADERSHIP or lack of it in NI, and the sometimes awkward and uncomfortable dynamics that result from this. The sense of there being unwritten rules, and not knowing what they are (what's allowed and expected here, fear of posting, being judged as lacking), how easily "us and them" boundary develops, not knowing how decisions get made or what permisions are needed to say put on a workshop. I recognised my own part in these (liberal parents, few rules, little or no reaction to rule breaking such as staying out til 3am, desire to escape oppressive feel in organisation I have known and experiment with emergent organisation etc). David challenged us to make hierarchy, power and authority in NI explicit instead of shrouded in mystery as it now is. Well OK, that's the context.

 

Is this a crisis?

Nick encouraged us to pay attention to what we value in NI and it was clear that NI, since its start in 1999, has been special, vibrant and valued by many people for all sorts of reasons... but we also realised that recently we are not achieving our potential or reaching out to everyone who has subscribed here and it was not an exaggeration to regard our current posiiton as a CRISIS. With Fiona gone, Colston and I are the remaining moderators, and Colston admitted to being a bit bored while I feel overstretched. Colston invited the group to face up to the 3 clear options now before us:

1. Close NI

2. Renew NI

3. Dribble on to incontinence. Ugh!

Which option appeals most to you? Several commented that Options 1 and 3 were not at all appealing and I felt from those gathered a real interest in pursuing option 2 as the discussion went on to explore what was required. So it appears that we're poised, on the edge of something, but this means we can crash and burn or maybe we can fly ahead into a new phase!

 

What are we?

Chris (a most experienced networker) helped us recognise that we were very successful both as an online and a face to face community which technically makes us a "HYBRID".... or a "HYBRID PLUS" because in addition to these 2 modes miscellaneous emergent things happen such as projects (eg. Julia Williams and myself collaborating in our voice workshop), talk, meetings, the Health sub-group, workshops (eg. Claire Shrader's Magicians workshop last autumn), learning sets between members that are not formally provided or necessarily visible to all. 

 

It was plain that some people are more interested in the online aspect and others more in the f2f but that NI is about both. The meeting lurched from one to the other for a time and Jerry helpfully pointed out around noon that we had only 30 mins left and we hadn't started talking about the future yet. Then some ideas and forward direction emerged in each. 

 

How do we develop from here?

To develop F2F we need to find out what members want (workshops? open space? social gatherings? or what..), which David (and Julia?) seemed interested to explore through a survey and Nick suggested phoning people (but discovered we don't have phone numbers!). We noticed that we do not currently have a calendar of forward events, and neither is there a place to find out who the other NI members are although everyone is asked at the time they join their responses are not currently captured anywhere.

 

To develop ONLINE, Brian and Chris were both excited and expressed interest in developing/exploring a series of options to take NI online forward and reach out to a much wider group beyond those who happen to enjoy meeting in and around London (threaded message board linked to website, user guide to NI, real time or async conferencing etc). Their emails since the meeting relate to this.

 

Yvana was actively facilitating, and bringing the discussion back to explore the core, underlying issues. Then at one point she seemed interested in offering to faciliate f2f a technical workshop with Brian and Chris exploring and demystifying online options.

 

How do we make decisions?

This idea generating stage of the meeting felt quite creative to me but seemed to stall as it was not clear how we would take a decision and move forward.  Yvana admitted she expected me to come in, pull things together and point the way forward. Nick pointed out we do not know how we want to take decisions. I was interested in NOT taking a decision and wanting to find a way not only of deciding the way forward but of spreading responsibility beyond Colston and me (your 2 remaining moderators) and enabling others in the wider group to play their full part in deciding our direction. At this point I declared my zero interest in constituting NI formally and attending a single meeting about financial, legal or other administrative matters - my excitement about NI is bound up with us being a new free organisational form that has none of this clutter, and guess what? I DO NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR LEADING NI IN A TRADITIONAL SENSE! (Sorry for shouting!). It feels important to me that NI remains unconventional, different in the way we approach leadership and membership, on the edge and constantly open and responding to the new life that is trying to happen.

 

How will we spread responsibility?

I also recognise that as moderators Colston and I are now the only "parents/leaders" that NI has and it is up to us to draw out what NI needs now and point a way forward. It is also clear that the future liveliness of NI may require clearer parenting, really responsive leadership and that Colston and I need help. We agreed to write down the tasks/responsibilities we think we have and to consider how to move to a position of perhps 5 rather than 2 moderators, with time bound "terms of office". This is something I will give further thought to and discuss with Colston before making our proposals here.

 

Actions

At the end of the meeting as you might have gathered we agreed that those who wanted to would post their postcard reflections here. They would also pursue certain actions in the light of what we discussed. David's survey is one of these - reaching out to you all to find what you want to give and get from NI. Brian is going ahead to explore online communications options/experiments for NI. Chris through his various postings is opening all sorts of wider possibilities for us.

 

Review

As Nick commented we did not (as is customary for facilitators) conduct an open review of the meeting. I don't know why - maybe because we were due to be kicked out of the room at 1, and maybe because some of us were going on to other meetings. When we closed I felt personally satisfied in what we had covered but then in chatting with the new people slightly disturbed at the impressions they had of tension, emotion and clutter. It was not an easy meeting, and not a great meeting for someone new coming to NI expecting an open space. I think the established people left some of the new people a little on the outside wondering if they really wanted to be part of this. This disappointed me as usually new people love our meetings - but I understand it too as I was very much needing to focus on where we are, to untie some knots and to find some release. The tension was real. We had work to do in the meeting and we got on with it. With hindsight I'm pleased at how this meeting moved us and NI on and at the new possibilities we now have.

 

What can you do next?

If you're interested in where we can take NI, please respond to David Grey's survey, and to the experiments Brian will no doubt propose in due course (including perhaps one that addresses Bruce's challenge to provide ways for those spread far and wide to connect).

 

Please respond to the NI list if you wish to express where you would like to see NI go from here. Whatever you say becomes part of our field of emerging possibilities. NI becomes what you and we all want it to become.

 

Please continue to use this space to ask answer questions, to make and respond to offers, put in your ideas, join in debates and continue to play your part in our many-sided, multi-dimensional exploration in the domain called "people, organisations and change".

 

Thank you for supporting NI, and being supportive and patient with me and I hope you will stay with us and participate in this renewal phase.

 

With best wishes

 

Tony

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Complexity Simplified and Applied [invoke, evoke, provoke -Cirque du Soleil] [mailto:im4xlns@hotmail.com]

Sent: 17 May 2003 21:38

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: NI - Renewal, and comments..

 

 

Hello there,

 

first, a "thanks" to Tony.  I really liked this articulation of what

transpired.  It gave a clear picture on the key issues.

 

With regard to those issues, a few quick comments that come to my mind:

 

1) NI already IS a community of pelple far beyond the commuting area of

London, and beyond the boundary of the U.K.  I came to NI because people

from NI also participate in another group that I am actively involved with. 

So the word about NI was and is, everywhere.  The Yahoo Group website also

assures that (although it is a bit hard to search out on Yahoo).  The people

who are signed on with NI... 135 or so, do include members from a number of

places in the world.

 

2) The statements of NI's mission/vision that are on the web, and which

accompany most of these posts, suggest a very inclusionary approach.  It is

my personal hope that those who attended the session in person gave just as

much concern to the interests of the distant, as to those of the close. 

That doesn't mean that all offerings or events will be the same.  Clearly,

things can be done including those in a close commuting radius, that can not

be done with those of us who are thousands of miles away.  Still, I remain

convinced that the interests of all in getting value from participating with

NI should matter equally.  And I do not feel that way just because I am

distant from the nucleus.  I participate in several global groups.  I travel

a lot.  But maybe because I am one of those "early adapters" of new

technologies, I feel good about being considered/included no matter how far

away I am from the others in a group.

 

3) With regard to the question of leadership, and indeed with regard to ALL

questions that emerged at this session- it rather sounds like the only

options now under consideration are those generated at the meeting.  Is

there going to be a survey, to assess the global consensus on these issues? 

If NI IS an unconventional, new sort of organization, and does include

participants worldwide, then I would suggest that everyone involved have an

equal say, at least in the key issues of structure and governance.  Again,

this does not preclude clusters of members from taking initiative to create

events, products, services, and so on.  Reflecting back on the system my

partner Jim and I created for the US Department of Labor, we settled on a

set of six core values/principles.  For each of our main agencies (very very

different in mission and culture, one from the other), we empowered a single

pair of people- one labor, one management, to oversee all development and

implementation issues.  So long as any idea met the criteria- it was a go. 

Wonderfully creative and diverse things emerged from these simple rules-

just as complex behaviors emerge in nature from a few rules.  I don't know

if this was discussed, but perhaps NI would be well served to agree on a set

of underlying values or principles in a similar manner.

 

4) I am sorry to say I see very little difference in fact between online and

in-person communications.  The greater difference is if the online stuff is

not in real time, or is linear.  The threads of ideas that flow here in

these emails are terrific I think.  But they do lack a bit of the

spontaneity that you can get with instant messaging, or some equivalent

technology.  But given some kind of live, group medium, I find that I can

get a great deal of context, sub-text, and meaning from the words people

type on a screen.  Firthermore, the ability to send private messages during

a realtime event adds to the richness and understanding that flow throughout

the group.  I suggest, therefore, that NI utilize the simplest, cheapest

technology possible to enable such real-time group conversations around the

world.  That would mean AOL Instant Messenger, or Yahoo Messenger- both of

which are stable, and free.

 

5) I was sorry to read that Fiona has withdrawn.  In my own experience there

are usually reasons why something like this happens.  It is usually not

spontaneous, or coincidental.  But that is also a personal choice, and the

NI membership would do well to look forward, I think.

 

I'm sure I'll think of other things I wanted to say at some later time.  But

for now... this will do for a start.

 

Happy weekend to all.  I am off to the annual Quality Congress in Kansas

City, Missouri, tomorrow.  On Monday, I give a presentation on "Strategic

Learning:  Changing the Training Culture to Support Quality and

Organizational Improvement."  This is a rather different perspective from

the usual Deming or Six Sigma stuff, and I will be interested to see how

many attendees I get (thousands of people at the Congress- but I'll be

delighted if I get 20-30 for my talk).  No matter-  "whoever comes is who is

supposed to be there."

 

Bruce Waltuck

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Keeley [mailto:jeremykeeley@keeleycarlisle.co.uk]
Sent:
18 May 2003 06:57
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Fiona Coffey
Subject: RE: NI - Reflections and our RENEWAL phase

Thank you to you Tony and to Brian, Nick, Colston, Julia and Chris who have so kindly shared their understanding of the meeting.  It feels clear to me what happened, and I feel I can share to some large extent in the richness of the discussion. 

 

It seems a key point to thank you Tony, Colston and Fiona for all the huge amount of value that you have bought to NI over the years since you formed it.  Actually - I would like to shout it THANK YOU TONY, COLSTON AND FIONA FOR YOUR HUGE VALUE TO THE NEW INTERMEDIARIES OVER THESE PAST YEARS.

 

While I was reading this I remembered something from the early days immediately prior to the formation of New Intermediaries where our learning set came to a key decision point about how it moved forward with respect to the New Intermediaries idea that Tony in particular wanted to really make into something special.  At that stage we debated, quite emotionally I think, whether or not we should continue as a learning set or whether we should move forward to form ourselves into the first form of the New Intermediaries.  We almost split up and were on the verge of losing dear friends from it.  At a crucial point we made the decision to maintain the learning set as it was and Tony took forward the New Intermediaries with little except moral support from the rest of us...and the learning set is still going and still serving us richly if somewhat sporadically these days, still with Tony as a key part of it.

 

So what is the point of this?  Two things I think:

(1) That the New Intermediaries doesn't just have to be just one thing...the renewal can work alongside the old, provided that people are prepared to work hard at both (and it doesn't have to be the same people).

(2) I recognise in myself some sense of ambivalence here.  On the one hand I do really care that those of you who do feel passionately about the New Intermediaries can take it forward as they would like to and I do admit to having still some sense of personal proprietriness about the name (alright I know there isn't a word like that).  And on the other hand I personally don't really care about its format in the future provided that I can continue to introduce people to it when I believe it would be useful to them or they would be useful to it.

 

So that puts me on a boundary here.  Passionate about a principle but with no commitment to any particular format.  And in this space I offer myself as a facilitator to those of you who want to discuss and debate how you want to effect this renewal.  I obviously have to limit the amount of time I can put to this...but certainly would be happy to commit a few days over the next few months if they would be useful - so do call on me if I can help.  (Please let me be clear - this is absolutely NOT a moderator or parent/leader role I am offering to fill here).

 

Meanwhile may I wish you Fiona all the very best!

 

Thanks

 

Jeremy

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Harmon [mailto:andy@actorsmind.com]
Sent:
18 May 2003 12:30
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: NI - Reflections and our RENEWAL phase

Jeremy, Tony et all,

 

What I like about NI as it's evolved is the shere informality of it. I probobly said this before but I had a drawing teacher who advised me to draw on cheap paper because the expensive paper would make me too cautious and spoil the work. Now for me NI is cheap paper, and in this whole organisational change game this gives it a value beyond price. In this business where we all play a game called "Trust Me, I Know What I'm Doing" because if we played the game "Jeez, I Haven't A Clue About What I'm Doing, Do You?" we'd never get work, NI is - for me at least - an Oasis of Sanity.

 

Personally, I'd like to see it stay that way: cheap paper on which everybody is free to make their mark or not according to their temperament or state of mind and heart at the moment.

 

Having said all this, the coherence of NI has been generated by the comittment and hard work of the founders, and the local (London centric) focus of the face to face events. It's entirely possible that, when the power structure is made explicit (as per David G) and things go more virtual (a la Bruce) a new focus of coherence will arise. But, if there is to be a renewal of the key principles of NI, I hereby put in my tupence worth behind the principle of Cheap Paper.

 

Andy Harmon

 

-----Original Message-----
From: David Grey [mailto:davidgrey@SPIN1.fsnet.co.uk]
Sent:
19 May 2003 09:16
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: NI - Reflections and our RENEWAL phase

Thanks for this Tony.  I think it is an excellent summary of what went on, and of the challenges and decisions which we face.

 

Good luck with NOT BEING A TRADITIONAL LEADER.  As I know you know, what you can't control is others' expectations and projections.  Hence my wishing you luck!

 

David G

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Heap [mailto:nick.heap@ntlworld.com]
Sent:
19 May 2003 10:21
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Subject: NI - Cheap paper and a street party

Dear All

 

So, how can NI continue informally and develop without heavy structures and "formal leaders" or "executive committees"? I like Andy's idea of "cheap paper" which I think means doing things simply and cheaply and trying things out.

 

We had a very successful street party for the 1975(!) Jubilee and the process we used might just work for NI. Someone in the street had the idea and canvassed support and got agreement to go ahead. We did not have a planning committee but we did have a series of open meetings (all meetings were open) where anyone who wanted to make a contribution came along. After the meetings people did what was necessary.

 

It was fascinating how the people changed as we got closer to the date of the party. At first it was people with ideas for an "Its a knockout" or a meal in the road or having a marquee where people who performed could do their thing. Later on it was the practical people who knew where to find things or how to do childrens parties etc that came along. Everyone enjoyed the event and their involvement in creating it. The young people made a wonderful walking dragon that was a complete surprise to most of us.

 

So perhaps the next time Colston and Tony get together to think about NI and where next, one or two of the rest of us could join in, and help with the thinking and with the work. I would be happy to do this now and then. Might this be a simple way forward?

 

What do you think?

Best wishes,

Nick Heap

-----Original Message-----

From: Georgina Woudstra [mailto:gwoudstra@clara.co.uk]

Sent: 19 May 2003 11:28

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: NI - Digest Number 695

 

 

Hi Tony et al,

 

I unfortunately didn't make the NI review meeting in London.  My sincere

apologies- my 40th birthday took over!

 

I have not been a very active member in NI, mainly as I receive so many emails that, by the time I have read the NI digest, it is days later and the topic has moved on!  However, I do read, and follow NI with interest.

 

I can offer one perspective, and a possible contribution to a way forward that might serve the NI community...

 

What I like about NI is the sense of community.  I love the ease of playing or dropping out for a while - without judgement or duty.  I like the sense of NI being a playground for learning and, in this sense, see a good deal of synergy between NI and my own venture- The Society Of Dreams.

 

What doesn't work for me is many face-to-face events as it's quite a hike into London for me and it takes up too much time.  As I'm in the process of moving to Barcelona, this issue will expand for me.  I also see that the world is, shrinking and communities like NI and The Society of Dreams are attracting participants from around the world.  I want to integrate this bigger playground.

 

One thing about communities that I'm discovering through the Society of Dreams is that they evolve, change and grow, and they need an energy bank to sustain them. If one or two people are holding most of that energy, it is easy for the energy bank to become depleted.  Energy also dissipates without human contact, which feeds the energy bank.  So, one practical thing I can suggest, is to have a regular global connection point, or 'hook up' for the NI community.

 

At the Society of Dreams we do this through regular teleforums.  These allow people from around the globe to get together on a regular basis for learning, development and discovery.  If it serves NI, I can offer, a free regular teleconference space, perhaps monthly, or bi-monthly, at a fixed time, or variable times.  The content could be organic, like continuing one of the email threads in person, or someone could stand forward and bring a topic or some material.  Our teleforums are currently all teleconference based, however are looking to add web technology soon which will broaden the horizons.

 

I realise that the 'phone isn't a vehicle for us all, and this doesn't replace the value of meeting physically. However, it does create regular contact, build relationships and top up the energy bank, all of which is useful.  If this idea appeals to NI, then it would be beneficial to have an NI champion who would arrange times, dates and perhaps co-ordinate topics -or not!

 

If any of you can't imagine how this could work- then may I invite you to participate in one of The Society of Dreams teleforums for free.  You can do this by joining The Society of Dreams for a 1-month free membership which will give you free access to our 2 regular teleforums- the Coaching & Leadership Teleforum, and the Fulfilment Conspiracy- more info at www.societyofdreams.com.

 

If I can support the NI community in this way, then I'd be delighted.

 

Warmest wishes

Georgina Woudstra

Cofounder The Society of Dreams

www.societyofdreams.com

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Colston Sanger [mailto:colston@shotters.dircon.co.uk]

Sent: 19 May 2003 22:36

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: Re: NI - Cheap paper and a street party

 

 

Dear Nick and all,

 

I haven't got round yet to finishing off my note of the stocktake the other

week - despite having drafted half of it. I want to chip in here, however,

because there is an important and *mistaken* assumption here.

 

It's this:

 

>So perhaps the next time Colston and Tony get together to think about

>NI

>and where next, one or two of the rest of us could join in, and help with

>the thinking and with the work. I would be happy to do this now and then.

>Might this be a simple way forward?

 

Colston and Tony (and Fiona), the erstwhile shadowy co-moderators of NI,

have hardly ever- if at all - got together to think about NI and where

next. The closest we have ever got to it is probably a round of email or

phone conversations to agree we need one of the periodic stocktakes.

 

I want to say this next bit really clearly: the decision-making body of NI

is the company of people who come to a stocktake. No more, no less. It is

*already* just like the street party organising committee you mention, Nick.

 

Warm wishes,

 

Colston

 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Nick Heap [mailto:nick.heap@ntlworld.com]

Sent: 20 May 2003 10:03

To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: NI - Cheap paper and a street party

 

 

Dear Colston

 

My apologies for my mistaken assumption. Your mail shows what an amazing organisational form NI is. I hope it goes from strength to strength.

 

Thank you for clarifying the situation.

 

Best wishes

 

Nick

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tonypage [mailto:tony@pageconsulting.co.uk]
Sent:
25 May 2003 09:59
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Subject: NI - NI's Leadership & renewal questions

Dear all

 

It's bank hol weekend, Sun morning. After lots of rain, it's a time for tending the garden, cutting grass and hedge.... and my thoughts turn to NI. Lots of emails circulating. I take this to mean we're in renewal - early phase, finding our path, reading the energy, looking for the next coherence. I for one am enjoying all the questions bubbling up about undiscussables, niceness, decision-making... some offers and ideas for how to move forward.

 

Some pause for reflection at this stage strikes me as appropriate and healthy for NI going forward. I'm being stimulated by this to reflect on the kind of leadership now needed and noticing three philosophies which seem very much in tune with NI's current and future potential. I wonder if you agree?

If we want NI to get beyond niceness, wheel-spinning etc to a point where people "self-organise around the work" ( and I do!) then we need to be clear about what the NI "work" is. We say we're about People, Organisations and Change. We say we offer to our members Support, Creativity and Impact. OK, fine in principle but what in real practical terms do we need to DO for NI to be what we want it to be? 

 

In the NI spin-off Health group, which some of you are in, the question of what we need to do is obvious and more concrete: we are organising ourselves to get work in the health sector. But in NI as a whole we are looser and more of a "potential from which conrete and interesting things emerge". Still we can address ourselves to what we need to do ie. what is the work to be done in NI.

 

Maybe you and we are each looking for others in NI to be raising meaty questions, joining in, facilitating, calling workshops, experimenting with ideas and techniques... organising something, or coming along to a party. Maybe you enjoy being asked questions and being a resource to colleagues - sharing your wisdom and experience. Maybe it is a social thing, or being part of something. Maybe the real work is about creating multiple opportunities to associate and connect with one another in as many ways as we can: face to face, online, teleconference, real time and async etc

 

The question I invite us to consider is "what is the real work in NI"? Then we might be better placed to self-organise, remove barriers and any leadership/governance/decision-making/cultural question becomes so much easier.

 

Thanks for listening/reading and please continue to offer your thoughts and ideas.  

 

Now it's time for my breakfast and the garden beckons!

 

Tony

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Julia Williams [mailto:julia@personalimpact.com]
Sent:
26 May 2003 01:02
To: newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: NI - NI's Leadership & renewal questions

Tony wrote "Maybe the real work is about creating multiple opportunities to associate and connect with one another in as many ways as we can: face to face, online, teleconference, real time and async etc  The question I invite us to consider is "what is the real work in NI"? Then we might be better placed to self-organise, remove barriers and any leadership/governance/decision-making/cultural question becomes so much easier."

 

This puts in a nutshell for me what it is about.  Very fluid, very free, everyone taking responsibility for their own leadership and contribution, however visible or invisible it is.  For me that IS the real work.  I don't need any answers to that question other than that we communicate our professional interests (which for some don't seem professional! and that is OK too) in different ways, exploring and listening in the background or initiating something.  Nothing is right or wrong but we create what we want and if we don't get support for an initiative here, we learn a lot from that and can choose what to do with it.  It's all about choice, value and communication, for me.

 

Thanks for highlighting the energy work again, Tony.  I am finding the 'New Alchemists' Email course just fascinating.  Alchemists are 'people who see and hold the potential in every moment!'

 

Julia

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Smits (Symphoenix Ltd) [mailto:frank@symphoenix.net]
Sent:
27 May 2003 15:44
To: New Intermediaries
Cc: Clive Cole
Subject: NI - practice what we preach: self-organising leadership

Dear all,

 

After the stocktaking exercise, in which I have not really participated, Tony mentioned various ways of ‘leadership’ that could help our community. With him identifying that the principles of ‘self-organising leadership’ could be of real help, I –quite naturally- could not agree more.

 

Is it an idea to hold a session for NI, to look at some of this?

There are a few people in the UK that are trained in the tools developed by the Center for Self-Organizing Leadership (CSOL). Clive Cole (on of them) offered to cofacilitate a session with me on this for NI. How would people feel about this?

We could set up –say- a 1 day workshop to come up with a ‘map’ for the New Intermediaries for the future, based on self-organising leadership principles. This way, we will find, we can see what we believe our individual roles in this might be. Usually, in those meetings –depending on how many people join- we come up with 4-6 coherent initiatives to support NI’s ideas.

 

Let me know what you think.

 

Regards,

 

Frank Smits

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tonypage [mailto:tony@pageconsulting.co.uk]
Sent:
30 May 2003 13:47
To: 'newintermediaries@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: List of who we are

Dear all

 

Who are the other 130 or so people in NI?

 

One thing that became apparent at 9 May meeting is that we were interested in each other - but that beyond email address and occasional postings it is not easy to know who is here in NI.

 

A bit of background - about 3 years ago we tried and failed to get everyone to put up a pen portrait or CV and although there is still a place you can use for this and your photo on the NI yahoo site there are only a couple of CVs there. 

 

But then on 9 May someone asked "what happens to the intros you write at the time of subscribing?". The answer is nothing. We used to post them to all but then someone got irritated about all the emails and we stopped.

 

So how do you find out who is in NI? Well here is a new solution. Go to http://www.newintermediaries.co.uk/archive/NIers.htm and you will find a compilation of all the intros people have made when they joined NI starting with the most recent. There are around 70 of them. Scroll through and you might find yourself there. Enjoy reading who else is around and who introduced them.

 

What if you're not there and want to be? Well send me or Colston your answer to the 3 questions and we'll add you next time we update.

 

What if you're there and don't like it? That's simple too. Re-answer the 3 questions or ask to be removed.

 

Yours

 

Tony